Beyond the Shoulds: Empowering Your Family Planning Decisions

Beyond the Shoulds: Empowering Your Family Planning Decisions

Beth, therapist and host, opens up about her struggles.

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Join Beth, therapist and host, as she candidly discusses her personal struggles with societal and internal pressures, particularly around her desire for a second child. In this episode, Beth reflects on the challenges of being in the spotlight and the impact of societal expectations on her life decisions. She emphasizes mindfulness, gratitude, and the importance of trusting life's timing. Tune in for an insightful conversation about managing pressures and focusing on the value of current experiences. Share your thoughts and engage with Beth as she explores relationships and mental health.

Beth Gulotta

Licensed Mental Health Counselor

Founder of NYC Therapeutic Wellness and Host of Quiet The Clock.

Episode Transcript

again it's about connecting with the people that matter to you being intentional about making plans seeing

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your friends seeing friends that like light you up that help you stay grounded in more you know compassionate kind

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narratives and ways of thinking I have some amazing friends that help me stay grounded and sort of help me see the big

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picture more realistically I think sometimes as individuals we are worst critics we are our perspective on things

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is bit blurred and sometimes we need people who love us to show us more

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clearly that the the [Music]

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picture hi guys I am doing another solo episode today and I'm not sure these

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will ever get easy for me um and I say that because I guess it's

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telling because I am a therapist and as a therapist we do talk you know but

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we're listeners we're holding space for someone else so I think I've always struggled with kind of owning the

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spotlight and having the spotlight and being the one talking and sharing um

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it's kind of funny because we have been talking about uh celebration burnout and you know the idea being that

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we celebrate people a lot of people for a lot of other things and for me I I

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experienced that but also I was thinking about that in that and in sort of the aligned with the spotlight thing is the

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first thing I celebrated for myself was 40 years old my baby shower and as an identical twin like I share birthday you

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share a lot of things but you know I was always going to everybody else's stuff and when it was a celebration for

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me it was really it was beautiful I was grateful but it was really uncomfortable

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um so that's a little bit of a tangent U about just like doing this whole episode

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kind of my voice being center stage but I have something really important I want

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to talk about today something that I am personally struggling with and and working to improve on every day and that's this

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idea of putting so much pressure on things and I think for me personally and

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professional as a professionally as a therapist I see the impact of the pressure that we put

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on ourselves and a lot of what we talk about on here is that societal pressure that external pressure that internal

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pressure that word should and I joke about this all the time but if you any

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of my former or current clients are listening the word

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should puts so much pressure on ourselves like it implies that we're not doing something

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right that we're not doing enough of something that what we're doing currently is not good enough right like

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the idea of I should be in a relationship or I should be at this

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place in my career at this point the word should puts so much pressure and

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judgment on where we currently are and where we currently are in our life and on our journey and you know in my work

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is a therapist I always encourage people to bring awareness to the word should and how much they're using it throughout

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the day and when I prompt my clients to do this they come back sort of in shock

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like saying I I use the word should all of the time this pressure that we put on

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ourselves and currently where I'm struggling or where I'm working right a reframe there what I'm working on is

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taking the pressure off the timeline of a second baby and it's challenging I'm

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not here to say that that's easy at all I'm you know on a humanize and normalize that I'm struggling with this as well

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and the way I'm trying to do that is really

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intentionally um you know as someone that believes in having these conversation and believes in doing the

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work to take the pressure off ourselves to empower our own paths to create our own blueprints like I struggle with this

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stuff too and I struggled with it previously when I was single at 34 I struggled with it when at 37 I froze my

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eggs and didn't have my son till 40 so it comes up and I you know having had

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that Journey it is helping me this time around where I'm feeling that pressure

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again where I'm feeling like I'm up against the clock at 43 trying to have

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another baby but even though I've lived it even though I know the value of taking the

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pressure off the pressure still shows up and then the question is what do I do with that and how do I work through that

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some of the things that I'm doing to mitigate the pressure is a lot of gratitude and again these are

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intentional practices because if I'm being really honest like I'm stressed and I am anxious about the timeline and

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not only the timeline that just the desire to have the thing that I want and I think that shows up a lot right like

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we might really want the partnership and we might really want the baby and we desire these things so deeply so it's

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not just about you know honoring the timeline but it's like yeah I get that and things

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will show up when they're supposed to show up but I also want this thing right now I wanted this thing for so long and

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I think that can be really difficult to hold and to um sit with

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because you know we're in we're it's hard to stay patient for things you really really want I also think too we

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live in such a a society now that is like instant gratification like there are a lot of

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things that we can have when we want them we have access to so much stuff information ability to buy stuff ability

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to like have it at our doorstep in minutes so I think we're also in this culture of like instant

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gratification and there's a lot of areas of Our Lives where patience does not have to apply because we can get a lot

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of the things that we want ASAP like I think about sort of this idea and I you

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know binging on Netflix we I remember when I was little every Sunday night my

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sister my mom and I would sit down and watch Murder She Wrote and then you have to wait an entire week for the next

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episode and even As I Grew Older there were shows I would think about like Beverly Hills 902 and0 I love that or

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M's place where like you watch the episode and you had to wait an entire

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week for the next episode and you know that was normalized where now a season

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comes out and we can completely binge it or do you guys ever notice like I guess

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the love blood his blindness does this they like put out six episodes and then you're like oh my God I have to wait a

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week for the next six and like we're not used to that waiting anymore we're not used to sort of implementing the skill

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of patients because a lot of What Not a lot of you know things in our world we

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don't have to wait for anymore in the ways that we used to have to wait for them

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um so for me being in the waiting being

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in a place where I feel like the clock is ticking being in the place where I

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greatly desire this thing and this thing being a second baby and expanding my

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family there's a lot of turmoil there but there's a lot of choice there too

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and I think the intentionality is important for me I have intentionally

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tried to slow down because when I slow down I can be more grounded in things

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that are going well things that I can be grateful for little moments of Joy when

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I'm moving too quickly through the day it's it is all stress it is all bad

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narratives it is all I should be doing this or I don't have enough time to do

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this or this the stress and pressure is really really heavy when I'm moving too

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quickly through my day so what slowing down has looked like for me

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is getting outside for lunch getting out from the computer and making a good meal

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and sitting outside in my backyard and for those of you that live in the city

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where there is not much Greenery like just get out for a walk and move slowly

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right so I'm in intentional about how quickly I eat I'm intentional about

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sitting down when I eat um and and that's not easy because while I'm doing

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that it's almost like you know training and rewiring my brain because as I'm doing that I'm thinking of all the

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things I have to do and so now I have this Choice do I like scarf down this meal real quick to get back to the tasks

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into the to-dos or do I take a beat do I slow down do I sit do I enjoy my meal

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and again these are intentional choices I'm trying to make and that has helped

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me tremendously just getting outside it's nicer out now it's sunny which

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always helps everybody's mood um you know sitting in my house in front of a

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computer when it's beautiful out also impacts my mood so getting outside

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slowing down and eating a good meal has been helpful for me the other thing I've been trying to do is I'm getting out for

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walks um I'm putting in my earpods putting on a podcast and I am going for

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at least a 30 minute walk and again it's an intentional choice to get out of the tasks of the day to get out of the

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to-dos and to just move and you know and it's everybody's like schedule dependent I know a lot of us are back well me my

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office is my home but a lot of us might be back in office so sometimes that's not possible but there's other ways to

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to slow down like I I don't know if everybody saw the real or my story where I talked about how quickly I was moving

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in Whole Foods and like I was making all these mistakes things were falling things were just like not

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cooperating and then I the checkout lady is watching me fumble over everything

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and um she said I say h nothing's working out this morning she goes no you

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just need to slow down so sometimes slowing down can just be a slower pace

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through your day through your task like moving with more ease instead of that like frenzied anxiety feeling um or that

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rushed feeling right like and it would be it's interesting to think about just

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how you approach the day and I just try to do things more slowly even if it's

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the same task even if it's like you know try to do the dishes in between sessions like I'm just trying to do it at a

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slower piece and I've found that really really helpful the other thing I'm doing

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is really working to prioritize things um you know I'm someone that really

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operates Well when things are tidy when things are organized when things are in their

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place but what I'm learning to do is recognize that sometimes that's not the priority sometimes the priority is the

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walk outside sometimes the priority is sitting down for lunch and choosing and

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making the choice that those things are the priority over like folding the laundry and knowing that the laundry

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will get folded it will get put away but little choices to prioritize things that

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take care of my mental health especially when I'm in a state of feeling the pressure on this strong desire for a

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second child um because it's not easy to hold that it's not easy to sit with that

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it's not easy to be completely out of feeling like you are out of control in terms of when the outcome comes and

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that's a huge emotional tool so I I find these other supportive emotional mental

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health things that I can do for myself really help me carry the weight of that

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a bit more another thing that I try to do is practice gratitude whether that's

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just um making like a mental note whether that's journaling really looking at all the things I have now um instead

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of being focused on what I don't have and being grateful for you know having

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my son being grateful for my business being grateful for the opportunity to

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choose to slow down I often can especially when I am locked into a

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desired outcome I can really Overlook all the things that are going well all

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the things I already have and it's not helpful at all to overlook

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those things because when I'm only focused on what I don't have I'm now in

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this place of lack I'm in this place of scarcity I'm in this place of sadness I'm in this place of longing and it's

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it's very hard to be there um and so when I can shift all of that is still

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there but when I can create space and be more expansive in in what I can feel in

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the same moment like and I make space for that gratitude and I make space for what's going well

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it helps balance out the weight of what I don't have yet and thinking about the value of

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gratitude is huge and I it's another exercise I prompt my clients to do is to

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be mindful of gratitude and what's interesting when I do this exercise

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myself or I prompt clients to do this exercise like it's hard to think about what we're grateful for because I don't

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think it's a mindset that is traditionally been encouraged or talked about or awareness brought to it so I

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think it's hard to train our brains to think about things that we're grateful

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for and it can be anything you know my my clients would make lists and they say well I'm grateful I have you know Wi-Fi

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and and they would think that was silly because it wasn't deep enough and I

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think you know anything you can be grateful for counts there's no like

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something counts and something doesn't count um so I think that's a really

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great tool supportive mindset to in again probably have to consciously

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intentionally wire your brain to be that way and that's creating you know that could help by creating a a daily

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practice to do that or every morning thinking about two or three things that you're grateful for or in those moments

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where you trying to slow down bring awareness to what is what is

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going well right now what about my day is good and I often think that we don't

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think about those things enough or even slow down enough to think about those things and I think that's really really

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important so if you find yourself putting pressure on yourself about where you should be where you

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aren't yet I really encourage you to think about well where am I right now and what's really great about

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where I am right now and what could be the purpose of where I am right now I have

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been really trying to stay grounded in what is the purpose of all this you know

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when I look back at my life and what has worked out in the way that it has worked out it does surprisingly all make sense

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I've said this before there was so much angst around being 37 and freezing my

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eggs and being 38 39 not a mother yet and then having my son at 40 I'm like oh

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my gosh this all makes sense this was the way it was supposed to happen this was the timing that was right for me and

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it's hard to know that as you're going through it but trusting that it will

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come to you in the time that it's meant to you is is so helpful it's hard but I've been

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trying to stay grounded that too I had an amazing call with um my one of my

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mentors coaches support systems and we were talking through all of this stuff

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and talking through what I don't have yet and when is it coming and the

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timelines you know I'm Justice susceptible to all this stuff is everybody listening and she said to me

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well when hasn't what she said how did she say Well when hasn't it worked out

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I want to say that again asking yourself well when hasn't it worked out and that statement stopped me in my tracks I

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started crying something with it something about it resonated with me so

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so hard that it was like light bul moment like oh my God Beth like why are

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you stressing like things have worked out and worked out beautifully have worked out like better than I can even

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imagine and I just think about you know meeting Rob at 34 and having Dean at 40

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and just you know where my business has grown to and the opportunities I have

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and you know I'm like oh my God it's all always worked out like I have no

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evidence that it hasn't worked out and then and again it's worked out in ways

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that is are more beautiful than I could even have imagined and I hold that statement so closely to

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my heart now because when I'm in those moments where the pressure is really heavy the stress is really heavy the

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uncertainty and the unknowns are so heavy I just remind myself you know

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where's the evidence that it hasn't worked out and for sure like some things

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in my life have not worked out the way that I wanted but the big important things that matter to me have worked out

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in a way that I just couldn't even imagine and I think back to you know

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previous relationships and you know where I might be if I was still in those

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and obviously the devastation of those ending but then it you know opens up this new opportunity to meet Rob who is

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just like for me my person so happy

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um yeah so it's just trusting that things will work out and also looking

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back at evidence of like where hasn't it where hasn't it worked out like where do we have that evidence that tells us like

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the thing that we desire doesn't eventually come to us and you know I think you can go on Instagram and see so

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many stories of of and I love when people these put these stories out how like an ending led to a More Beautiful

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Beginning and trusting that you know what is meant for us will come to us you

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know sometimes that's hard hard to hold then I think that's why it's important to have other supportive tools like I

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mentioned to you know help our our emotional and mental health and

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connection is another one I'm finding so important for myself um it can be really

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hard especially someone that works remotely mostly working from home it can

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be really really isolating and I think from those places of isolation is when those bad narratives are louder when

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it's not as easy to use our tools so I've been finding getting out and

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connecting and sometimes that might still mean by myself but like it's out of my house there is still like

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interaction with other people which I love and enjoy and then again it's about

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connecting with the people that matter to you being intentional about making plans seeing your friends seeing friends

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that like light you up that help you stay grounded in more you know

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compassionate kind narratives and ways of thinking I have some amazing friends that help me stay grounded in gratitude

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and sort of help me see the big picture more realistically I think sometimes as individuals we are worst critics we are

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our perspective on things is a bit blurred and sometimes we need people who

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love us to show us more clearly that the the picture I remember so clearly I was

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this was so many years ago be before yeah before I met Rob I was training for

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the New York City marathon I forget where I was in my career I might have still been in

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school but anyways I I was doing a lot of things and there were a lot of accomplishment accomplishments happening

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um but I remember feeling these same things like what am I I'm not doing

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anything I'm not doing enough everybody else is doing all of these things I'm so behind and my friend at the time that I

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was training with said to me she's like hold on Beth what about this this this this you're doing that thing you've done

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this thing and I was like oh my God you're right I never saw it that way and so I think it's so helpful to have those

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friends in life and those people in your life that will just like sort of check you and be like well let's just try to

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look at it a different way and sometimes we need that because we can't see it ourselves um I feel like I'm rambling

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but all this to say is that we put a lot of pressure on ourselves and sometimes

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it is unnecessary pressure and I think deciphering between narratives that are helpful and

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motivating versus narratives that are harmful is really important because I think

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sometimes a little bit of pressure can be helpful and healthy we just have to

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watch where it crosses over that line where it becomes problematic and harmful

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and it starts to perpetuate you know the inner critic that voice gets loud these really

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unhelpful narratives about what we don't have what we're not doing what we should have that we don't have yet and it's a

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really really slippery slope if we're not mindful if we're not bringing awareness to the things that we're

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saying to ourselves um I think there's a lot of value in identifying the things that you

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want and getting really clear on what you want and sometimes most times we

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don't get to decide the when and I think it's about getting really clear on the

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things that you want and living a life that aligns with your values living a life that is intentional living a life

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that is brings you Joy and fulfillment while you and I don't want to say wait

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while you live until these things come to you because so many other things are amazing

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things are are probably happening and that's really a good reminder for myself too that there's so many amazing things

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going on even though right now you know my desire is to be pregnant there's so

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many other amazing things going on and I know I trust and I have evidence from

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previous life experience that that when it does happen in the time that it happens it's going to make so much sense

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and the thing that I said earlier about like kind of asking ourselves these questions like what is the

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purpose I would think for myself and I'll kind of walk through all the big important things in my life that I have

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desired and didn't come in the time that I thought they would that created so much angst for me um um so meeting Rob

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at 34 I think the purpose for that for me you know and I don't that's like not

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late in life but if we're like talking about societal standards like that is late in life and so funny I'm watching

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um the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader documentary which is like so problematic

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on so many levels but these girls are like 24 years old getting married and

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like you know engaged and one of the girls is actually she's also 24 and she's like I am behind in this game of

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life and I'm like oh my God you're only 24 but you know so meeting robit 34 by

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societal standards was like so late in the game and again caused me so much angst and like stress and

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self-judgment and probably external judgment about like you know I always got the why are you single which was a

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question that pissed me off so much because I'm like I don't I don't know and I think I came to find out why it

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was my own stuff and my own attachment style and things I had to work through but for me the purpose of meeting Rob at

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34 and again sometimes this stuff is hindsight which is so it just kind of sucks it's hindsight

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because if we knew these things while we're going through it we would we would be happier we wouldn't be as sad or I definitely wouldn't have been um but at

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34 based on what I had been through what I had learned through other relationships what I had learned about

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myself I was way way way more clear on what I wanted of a partner and what I needed out of a partner and partnership

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and what kind of partner I wanted to be prior to meeting Rob I you know I just

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didn't feel like I could show up myself in these other relationships or situationships and when I met Rob I was

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so unapologetically myself and did not like try to play the cool girl or be

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anyone else but myself and and that's what worked and I think that's what really attracted him to me um and I

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don't think I could have been there before 34 so for me I think that was the purpose of meeting my partner later in

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life the purpose of having my son at 40 again

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hindsight um I got to do so much in my 30s Rob and I got to do so much together

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before having having Dean like we traveled everywhere we got to live

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spontaneously um we just did so much before having him and and I got to build

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a business that I love a career that I love which you know is not impossible

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with with children but it you know your time is just different um and even bigger than that I know that I'm a

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better mother for it I am way more patient I have the opportunity to have a

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different amount of time I have the opportunity to have a different you know different type of resources so that was

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the purpose for me now I see of becoming a mother at 40 and again it's hard to

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know these things while we're in it while we're in the waiting while we're in the desire but I think when you're there

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asking yourself what could be the purpose of this and I think I shared this on my last solo episode um while

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the for fertility Journey has been really really hard and really really challenging I have always stayed

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connected to there is a bigger purpose for this and I think it allows me to

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relate to more women and you know women that come on this podcast women that reach out to me it certainly allows me

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to be a louder voice to advocate for lots more conversation lots more

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information um that I want to pay forward I I learned a lot have learned a

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lot I continue to learn a lot through my experience that I just want to continue to pay forward and help other women with

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um so I feel like there's a lot of purpose in that and I don't know know

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yet the purpose of the timeline for maybe baby number two or when that will even happen but I know it will be

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purposeful I know the timing will make sense whenever that timing is and really

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working to let go of the pressure I'm putting on that um I was asked another

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really amazing question by another woman that I'm working with and who is supporting me through all of this was

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was and I I put this in the newsletter that we sent out but for anyone that didn't read I want to mention it here

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which is to think about you know how my biggest gifts in life and my two biggest gifts in life

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are Rob and Dean and she asked me to think about kind of where I was when those gifts came to me and I was

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like I was in a state of like happiness and joy and gratitude and full

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acceptance and even Pride about where I was in my life you know before I met Rob I really leaned into my being single had

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leaned into my life was really grateful for the life I built and everything that I had and I was there was no pressure on

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meeting anybody I was kind of like all right like maybe this is not meant for me and that's okay I'm going to choose

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to be happy and then Rob came into my life and saying with having Dean you know for Rob and I there were hard

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conversations for for years about children or timelines and getting on the

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same page and we were kind of in a very difficult spot and uh we were worked

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through that and we kind of just said you know what pressure off let's just see what happens and two weeks later I I

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was pregnant so again it is not easy to take the pressure off but so much can

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happen when you do not only will the things probably come to you you'll just

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feel better like I feel better when the pressure is off when I can be in more

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gratitude when I can slow down when can be an acceptance you just feel better

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and again like you know figuring out where that line is with that healthy amount of pressure I think there's you

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know timelines or deadlines I should say not timelines deadlines create a little bit of pressure but then the thing gets

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done so really identifying the pressure that is unhelpful to you and working to take

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that pressure off and finding ways that are helpful for you to do that will be a

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game changer will probably help things flow to you more easily the things that

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you've desired will come to you and you get to live lighter you get to live

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happier um and I think the other thing which can be really hard and could help

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but help take the pressure off is attaching less to an outcome and more to

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the journey right and so the outcomes are unknown the timelines are un unknown

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and often I think we attach to that outcome and we miss the whole Journey

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part I think there's so much Beauty in the journey whether it's messy hard challenging exciting adventurous that's

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the stuff I think that really matters um so whatever you're putting pressure on

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now maybe identifying the thing that you put the pressure on the most and then asking yourself what can I do to take

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some of this pressure off and again I've offered some things here um that have been helpful to me and

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I think it's a continuous work I think it's daily choices I think it's micro choices every day to just live in a

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state of acceptance and presence versus anxiety and angst and and troil

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so I hope this episode was helpful I feel like I rambled for a very long time

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um but yeah just essentially like what are you putting pressure on how can you take the pressure off what

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is the purpose of this time in your life what is the value of this time in your life what do you learning what are you

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learning to understand about yourself asking yourself those qu questions and shifting out of I don't have this thing

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yet to I have all these amazing things right now and this is all the things I'm learning and this is at this point in my

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life this is the experiences I'm having and here's what I'm taking away from these experience so if we really are

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inten about how we think about things it can shift and change so so much so I

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hope this for all of you listening that there's an opportunity to take some pressure off to be more present to be in

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more acceptance of where you are now to love where you are now um and just enjoy

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your life a bit more and these are reminders for me this is as much an episode for me as it is for everybody else because I am working to do that

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myself and I hope you enjoyed this Soul episode if you did let me know if there's other

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things that you want me to talk about let me know um I kind of hopped on here no not knowing exactly what I was going

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to talk about I had a couple things I wanted to talk about um and I do want to talk about relationship stuff so maybe

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that'll be the next solo episode but if there's anything you want to hear me talk about topics I want to talk about

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therapeutic topics you want me to talk about I can go kind of more to therapist mode let me know shoot us an email at

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hello at quiet thee clock.com um DM me let me know give me some feedback let me

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know what you want to hear also don't forget to subscribe to our Channel on YouTube give us a review on Apple we

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love all love and appreciate all the support and I'll talk to everybody soon if you're someone struggling or relating

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to the topics that we're talking about now and you're feeling the anxiety or the stress or the pressure of feeling

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like you're running out of time you're behind and you want some extra support check out my group therapy practice in

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Midtown Manhattan NYC therapeutic Wellness we have an amazing team of clinicians ready to support you in your

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journey to help you feel more grounded to help you feel more grateful to help you feel like you're just exactly where

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you need to be so check us out at www.nyc therapeutic wellness.com

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